Posts by amiable atheist

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Evolution or Creation Poll

by Vanderhoven7 in

evolution is how we got here.. demonstrate that you believe that all species evolved from a single cell over/within 3.5 billion years by tapping "like" below.. demonstrate that you believe in special creation by tapping "unlike" below..

amiable atheist

I read The Selfish Gene by Richard Dawkins in 1976. That did the job. I like Jerry Coyne too, he gives some talks on evolution on YT.

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This is my fav. pic of girl petting a lion.

by rockemsockem in

[img]http://i63.tinypic.com/vpas74.jpg[/img].

amiable atheist

Click on the "View raw image" link, (bottom left)

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Bottlegate Revisited

by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

jw
friends

hilarious,enjoy.found on reddit.

this should set the mood for the weekend !.

zing.

amiable atheist

A frugal breakfast for a True Scotsman.

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JUNE 2019 Watchtower: Higher Education - HQ & Bethels are populated with evil, educated folks!

by The Fall Guy in

how alienated from jehovah and un-christian so many bethelites must be, who finished their higher education and gained their degrees!

i don't know how they can live with their consciences!.

pages 6 & 7, pars.

amiable atheist

Thankfully, once I realized that being immersed in higher education was damaging my relationship with Jehovah, I knew I had to stop.

This should read: "Thankfully, once I realized that being immersed in water was damaging my relationship with reality, I knew I had to stop."

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North Korea official photos

by neat blue dog in

official government photos:.

hmmm.

any thoughts?

amiable atheist

Oh, nice. Photos from the Pyongyang national convention of JW.

I am going to send this to my JW parents. As to whether they'll get the joke, I have severe doubts...

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shunning of those who have "left da troof"

by resolute Bandicoot in

hi friends, .

can somebody please help me locate a recent thread that dealt with shunning of family members and the policy double standard, e.g.

jw.borg explanation that the family relationship is unchanged and the recent daily text that suggested that we should shun them.. tried searching but could not find it.. thanks rb.

amiable atheist

I just remembered this post from about 3 months ago: "They would Stone us if the law would allow"
by ElderEtta, where Paul Grundy (author of jwfacts.com) had dug up this gem of Watchtower:

"Being limited by the laws of the worldly nation in which we live and also by the laws of God through Jesus Christ, we can take action against apostates only to a certain extent, that is, consistent with both sets of laws. The law of the land and God's law through Christ forbid us to kill apostates, even though they be members of our own flesh-and-blood family relationship. However, God's law requires us to recognize their being disfellowshiped from his congregation, and this despite the fact that the law of the land in which we live requires us under some natural obligation to live with and have dealings with such apostates under the same roof. Satan's influence through the disfellowshiped member of the family will be to cause the other member or members of the family who are in the truth to join the disfellowshiped member in his course or in his position toward God's organization. To do this would be disastrous, and so the faithful family member must recognize and conform to the disfellowship order. How would or could this be done while living under the same roof or in personal, physical contact daily with the disfellowshiped? In this way: By refusing to have religious relationship with the disfellowshiped." Watchtower1952 Nov 15 p.703

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shunning of those who have "left da troof"

by resolute Bandicoot in

hi friends, .

can somebody please help me locate a recent thread that dealt with shunning of family members and the policy double standard, e.g.

jw.borg explanation that the family relationship is unchanged and the recent daily text that suggested that we should shun them.. tried searching but could not find it.. thanks rb.

amiable atheist

Examining the Scriptures Daily -- Download link:

https://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/Examining-the-Scriptures-Daily-2019/#?insight[search_id]=a721743e-0d1f-46e9-a9ec-5ef5ab6c7a39&insight[search_result_index]=0

"Monday, January 14
Discipline . . . is painful.
—Heb. 12:11.
Despite our pain of heart, we must
avoid normal contact with a dis-
fellowshipped family member by
telephone, text messages, letters,
e-mails, or social media. Yet, main-
tain hope. Love “hopes all things,”
including that those who have left
Jehovah will come back to him.
(1 Cor. 13:7) If you see evidence
that a close family member is hav-
ing a change of heart, you could pray
that he or she gain strength from
the Scriptures and respond to Jeho-
vah’s appeal: “Return to me.” (Isa.
44:22) Jesus said that if we were to
put any human before him, we would
not be worthy of him. Yet, he was
confident that his disciples would
have the courage to maintain their
loyalty to him despite family opposi-
tion. If following Jesus has brought
“a sword” into your family, rely on
Jehovah to help you deal with the
challenges successfully. (Isa. 41:10,
13) Find joy in knowing that Jeho-
vah and Jesus are pleased with you
and that they will reward your faith-
ful course. w17.10 16 ̊19-21"

This refers to Watchtower 2017, October, Study edition P.16, par. 19:

"19 Respect the discipline of Jehovah. His
arrangement can bring the best long-
term outcome for all, including the
wrongdoer, even though the immedi-
ate effect is painful. (Read Hebrews
12:11.) For example, Jehovah instructs
us to “stop keeping company” with un-
repentant wrongdoers. (1 Cor. 5:11-13)
Despite our pain of heart, we must
avoid normal contact with a disfellow-
shipped family member by telephone,
text messages, letters, e-mails, or social
media."

BUT: Clip from the Supreme Court of Canada Case on November 2, 2017 involving the Jehovah's Witness Organization vs. Randy Wall. What the WT-Org lawyer says is an utter lie. Watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w867kyTyE2I

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“Millions now living will never die”

by HappyBlessedFree in

so i’m just reading the part in ray franz book “crisis of conscience” about the 1925 prediction of “millions now living will never die”.. ofcourse all witnesses are very familiar with this campaign.

yet none of us ever had an issue with it, including myself.

since the booklet was published in 1920, we are one year away from 100 years from that time.

amiable atheist

@Tiana - It's just business as usual: The big A has always been, and will always be, immediately behind the next overlapping corner.

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Maybe it could be worse...

by Olig in

so i just watched a documentary on netflix called "the end of the world cult" about some geezer named wayne bent (self proclaimed as michael travesser).

some of the stuff this guy says is absolutely unbelievable, and made me seriously think that there are some god awful cults out there, and made me think my time in the jw's (however boring and restrictive) wasn't all so bad... has anyone else seen this?

does anyone have any recommendations on other documentaries of the like??

amiable atheist

@Olig "Does anyone have any recommendations on other documentaries of the like??"

This is about "The Buddhafield"-Cult -- by an ex-member

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5_1ZuQKf4U

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More Watchtower Property For Sale!

by Atlantis in

if this is old news then just scrap it.. .

looks like more watchtower property is for sale.. .

https://www.matele.be/bioul-le-centre-des-temoins-de-jehovah-a-vendre.

amiable atheist

Kim & Mikey said, it's an assembly hall.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCwjlzPiya4

"Another one bites the dust!"